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	<title>Comments on: Response to Ed Curran&#8217;s &#8220;Open Letter to Sports Fans&#8221;</title>
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	<description>The Maze was a good place for a prison, but not for a sports stadium</description>
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		<title>By: beano</title>
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		<dc:creator>beano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JonBoy - genuine question. Have you ever had to get a bus that wasn't going to or from somewhere in Belfast?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JonBoy - genuine question. Have you ever had to get a bus that wasn&#8217;t going to or from somewhere in Belfast?</p>
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		<title>By: JonBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm in the camp of 'lets just build the damn thing', but aside from that, the reason i am posting is that i've lived in england for about 3 years up until recently, and i think that NI's bus and rail service is better than that of England at least</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the camp of &#8216;lets just build the damn thing&#8217;, but aside from that, the reason i am posting is that i&#8217;ve lived in england for about 3 years up until recently, and i think that NI&#8217;s bus and rail service is better than that of England at least</p>
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		<title>By: beano</title>
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		<dc:creator>beano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM

1&#038;2: What good is having a motorway in if it's congested by a bottleneck at the entrance to the stadium because those thousands of cars all have to park in the same place? That's the problem with having one place to park and one entrance to it.

3: I don't understand - are you saying the GAA should use the stadium in Monaghan or that they should use the Maze BECAUSE it's in Monaghan?

4: What "three major unionist areas" are within a mile of the site?

5: The question is a non sequitr. Nobody is refusing to allow a new stadium to be built because of the hunger strikers - we're asking that it be somewhere else, and there are plenty of more important reasons why the Maze is a bad idea without even considering the potential problems with the "centre for conflict transformation". 

6: Ormeau would be accessible from central station, significant parking could be allocated in/around/under the stadium itself (as was planned) and more could use car parks around the city that are normally only full during office hours.

7: I don't know where to start. It'll be some time before Lisburn catches up to Belfast (are you including the chunk of west Belfast that's in the Lisburn council area in your population of Lisburn by any chance?). Don't be fooled into thinking "some matches may not get" 40,000. One match in a decade may get that amount. And what if we (I presume you mean the Northern Ireland football team?) don't continue playing the way we are. What about the domestic cups that will have to use it? What about rugby? Have you ever been to Great Britain? I have to ask as I don't believe anyone who ever has could ever suggest our bus and rail network is better. It's pitiful.

9: 3 countries will never host the Euros. Northern Ireland will never host the Commonwealth games. The facilities aren't there and its not just sports facilities. We can't host a UEFA cup final for the same reasons, e.g. not enough hotel beds in the whole of Northern Ireland!! Newsflash: Northern Ireland &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; small! That's the whole problem with this project: it lacks a grounding in reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM</p>
<p>1&#038;2: What good is having a motorway in if it&#8217;s congested by a bottleneck at the entrance to the stadium because those thousands of cars all have to park in the same place? That&#8217;s the problem with having one place to park and one entrance to it.</p>
<p>3: I don&#8217;t understand - are you saying the GAA should use the stadium in Monaghan or that they should use the Maze BECAUSE it&#8217;s in Monaghan?</p>
<p>4: What &#8220;three major unionist areas&#8221; are within a mile of the site?</p>
<p>5: The question is a non sequitr. Nobody is refusing to allow a new stadium to be built because of the hunger strikers - we&#8217;re asking that it be somewhere else, and there are plenty of more important reasons why the Maze is a bad idea without even considering the potential problems with the &#8220;centre for conflict transformation&#8221;. </p>
<p>6: Ormeau would be accessible from central station, significant parking could be allocated in/around/under the stadium itself (as was planned) and more could use car parks around the city that are normally only full during office hours.</p>
<p>7: I don&#8217;t know where to start. It&#8217;ll be some time before Lisburn catches up to Belfast (are you including the chunk of west Belfast that&#8217;s in the Lisburn council area in your population of Lisburn by any chance?). Don&#8217;t be fooled into thinking &#8220;some matches may not get&#8221; 40,000. One match in a decade may get that amount. And what if we (I presume you mean the Northern Ireland football team?) don&#8217;t continue playing the way we are. What about the domestic cups that will have to use it? What about rugby? Have you ever been to Great Britain? I have to ask as I don&#8217;t believe anyone who ever has could ever suggest our bus and rail network is better. It&#8217;s pitiful.</p>
<p>9: 3 countries will never host the Euros. Northern Ireland will never host the Commonwealth games. The facilities aren&#8217;t there and its not just sports facilities. We can&#8217;t host a UEFA cup final for the same reasons, e.g. not enough hotel beds in the whole of Northern Ireland!! Newsflash: Northern Ireland <em>is</em> small! That&#8217;s the whole problem with this project: it lacks a grounding in reality.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mistake 1 and 2

"The fact is that it will be a nightmare to get to via the one road in and out and that there will be limited facilities to encourage supporters to hang around a while."
One road being a motorway lol where can you build an access point like this in Belfast.  Plus there is the usage of the old rail link that is still accessible from Dublin rail line and then you have the dual carriage way that will be connected again.  How do you know what facilities that are going to be there they have not been fully discussed as of yet....

Mistake 3

Considering the biggest stadium for GAA in Ulster is in Monaghan would it not be more feasible to use the stadium for the Ulster Championship.  

Mistake 4 

"“Sinn Fein is also prepared to buy into this sports-sharing ideal even though it is situated in a bastion of unionism.”" Tell that to the people who live in the area you have three major unionist areas within 1 mile of the site that is being proposed.

Mistake 5 

You haven’t quantified an answer? 

Mistake 6

Where would you build it Ormeau no road or rail network within a mile that can handle the project no parking no point...  Duncrue Well its out of Belfast then lol that’s Newtownabbey is it not? No rail link there either

Mistake 7

How many people can get to the matches now?
15000 would it not be better to go somewhere where if we play like we have been we get 40000 some matches may not get this amount but build it like the Reebok in Bolton and you would still get the sound of a full stadium.  Windsor was good for a while but what is stopping us from using the maze as for an argument i heard before about build it in the biggest population base looking at the expansion of Lisburn shouldn’t be too long before its population size is the same as Belfast.

Bus and rail in Northern Ireland are better than the rest of the UK Okay not saying much but you cant go wrong with only having 1 train line that side of Belfast lol.  The rail road and bus network will server this area better than any other area of Belfast.

Mistake 9 

Is this what you think of Northern Ireland that we will only get small crap think again if scotland can get the commonwealth games for 2014 should we not start thinking along these lines you should be trying to make Northern Ireland a better place for sport not talking us down for goodness sake.  The stadium would also help in promoting a Scotland Wales Northern Ireland euro champs campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mistake 1 and 2</p>
<p>&#8220;The fact is that it will be a nightmare to get to via the one road in and out and that there will be limited facilities to encourage supporters to hang around a while.&#8221;<br />
One road being a motorway lol where can you build an access point like this in Belfast.  Plus there is the usage of the old rail link that is still accessible from Dublin rail line and then you have the dual carriage way that will be connected again.  How do you know what facilities that are going to be there they have not been fully discussed as of yet&#8230;.</p>
<p>Mistake 3</p>
<p>Considering the biggest stadium for GAA in Ulster is in Monaghan would it not be more feasible to use the stadium for the Ulster Championship.  </p>
<p>Mistake 4 </p>
<p>&#8220;“Sinn Fein is also prepared to buy into this sports-sharing ideal even though it is situated in a bastion of unionism.”&#8221; Tell that to the people who live in the area you have three major unionist areas within 1 mile of the site that is being proposed.</p>
<p>Mistake 5 </p>
<p>You haven’t quantified an answer? </p>
<p>Mistake 6</p>
<p>Where would you build it Ormeau no road or rail network within a mile that can handle the project no parking no point&#8230;  Duncrue Well its out of Belfast then lol that’s Newtownabbey is it not? No rail link there either</p>
<p>Mistake 7</p>
<p>How many people can get to the matches now?<br />
15000 would it not be better to go somewhere where if we play like we have been we get 40000 some matches may not get this amount but build it like the Reebok in Bolton and you would still get the sound of a full stadium.  Windsor was good for a while but what is stopping us from using the maze as for an argument i heard before about build it in the biggest population base looking at the expansion of Lisburn shouldn’t be too long before its population size is the same as Belfast.</p>
<p>Bus and rail in Northern Ireland are better than the rest of the UK Okay not saying much but you cant go wrong with only having 1 train line that side of Belfast lol.  The rail road and bus network will server this area better than any other area of Belfast.</p>
<p>Mistake 9 </p>
<p>Is this what you think of Northern Ireland that we will only get small crap think again if scotland can get the commonwealth games for 2014 should we not start thinking along these lines you should be trying to make Northern Ireland a better place for sport not talking us down for goodness sake.  The stadium would also help in promoting a Scotland Wales Northern Ireland euro champs campaign.</p>
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